> 
Larz asks you: you comming?  g
Tunnel. [nw,e].
> g
Tunnel. [nw,e].
> nw
> Tunnel. [n,se].
Three svirfneblies are here.
> n
> Tunnel. [n,s].
> n
> Tunnel. [n,s].
> n
> At cavein. [s,w].
> n
The attempt to north didn't really work out.
> w
> Dark Tunnels: Small tunnel [nw,ne,e].
> ne
> Dark Tunnels: Small tunnel [nw,ne,sw,e].
> e
> Dark Tunnels: Pale orange tunnel [nw,w,se].
> se
> Dark Tunnels: Fork in tunnel [nw,sw,e].
> e
e
e
> Dark Tunnels: Dark, narrow tunnel [w].
> e
> > 
     The ground below you begins to tremble, and a fierce bulette comes out
launching itself towards you!

You are attacked by Bulette.

Drider draws blood on Bulette with a cut from his scimitar.

Drider draws blood on Bulette with a cut from his scimitar.
You are attacked by Drider.
Drider slashes you with his scimitar for 8 HPs damage.
Drider slashes you with his scimitar for 11 HPs damage.
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [w,e,se].
Bulette and Two Driders are here.
Four Scimitars.
> You are attacked by Umber Hulk.
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [ne,w].
Umber Hulk is here.
> The Shield of Grimbrand unleashes a wave of destruction crushing Bulette for 20
HPs damage.
HP: 339 GP: 349
> 
Fink shouts: scroll of reinc for sale
e
> The attempt to east didn't really work out.
> The attempt to east didn't really work out.
> You are hunting Bulette
You are hunting Drider
You crush Umber Hulk with your Bone Hammer for 9 HPs damage.
se
The attempt to southeast didn't really work out.
> Umber Hulk missed you.
Umber Hulk missed you.
Umber Hulk missed you.
You crush Umber Hulk with your Bone Hammer for 11 HPs damage.
The Shield of Grimbrand hammers Umber Hulk with a bolt of divine power for 16
HPs damage.
g
Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [ne,w].
Umber Hulk is here.
> Umber Hulk missed you.
Umber Hulk missed you.
Umber Hulk missed you.
ne
You are attacked by Ghoul.
You are attacked by Ghoul.
You are attacked by Ghoul.
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [e,sw].
Three ghouls are here.
> You are hunting Umber Hulk
You crush Ghoul with your Bone Hammer for 12 HPs damage.
The Shield of Grimbrand lashes out at Ghoul inflicting 20 HPs damage.
e
Ghoul missed you.
Ghoul missed you.
Ghoul missed you.

[Oracle (Newbie) enters FR-MUD]
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [e,w].
> 
Vengence shouts: I'll sell cheaper

Uroboros shouts: I'll buy it for 1k.
sc
You are hunting Ghoul
You are hunting Ghoul
You are hunting Ghoul
Hp: 340(358)  Gp: 350(355)  Xp: 1189630  Socp: 1000
Saving...
> You stop hunting Bulette.
cure me
Your ring of faith fills you with a sense of warmth, and you feel closer to
your diety.
You begin to cast cure critical wounds.
> You chant, 'magius criusis curis'.
You cure some of your grevious wounds.
HP: 358 GP: 345
g
Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [e,w].
> 
Uroboros shouts: Reinc scroll for sale: 4k!
st me
The warm glow from your ring fades and you sense its magic has been exhausted,
at least for awhile.
Your ring of faith fills you with a sense of warmth, and you feel closer to
your diety.
You begin to cast stoneskin.
> You chant, 'amoris stohrikus'.  g

[Jericho Mongus enters FR-MUD]
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [e,w].
> You gesture and your skin hardens considerably. You feel very protected, but
much slower.
g
Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [e,w].
> 
Uroboros shouts: if I get to buy it, that is.
e
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [ne,w,s].
> ne
> Strange Tunnel Crossroad [ne,nw,w,e,sw,se].
Battle axe.
> e
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [w,e].
> se
The attempt to southeast didn't really work out.
> e
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [w,ne].
> ne

Providence shouts: SCROLLS of reincarnation for sale :)
You are attacked by Hell Hound.
You are attacked by Hell Hound.
You are attacked by Hell Hound.
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [sw,se].
Three Hounds are here.
> se
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [nw,e,s].
> The Shield of Grimbrand lashes out at Hell Hound inflicting 16 HPs damage.
g
Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [nw,e,s].
> You are hunting Hell Hound
You are hunting Hell Hound
You are hunting Hell Hound
s
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [sw,n,e].
Two peches are here.
> e
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [w,e].
> e
You are attacked by Hook Horror.
> Hidden Cave [n,w].
Hook Horror is here.
> You crush Hook Horror with your Bone Hammer for 9 HPs damage.
Hook Horror missed you.
w
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [w,e].
> w
The Shield of Grimbrand hammers Hook Horror with a bolt of divine power for 19
HPs damage.

     The ground below you begins to tremble, and a fierce bulette comes out
launching itself towards you!

You are attacked by Bulette.
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [sw,n,e].
Bulette and Two peches are here.
> sw
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [nw,ne].
> You are hunting Hook Horror
You are hunting Bulette

Providence shouts: *tease Ork*
g
Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [nw,ne].
> 
Bedivere shouts: *muttere I Hate That Duck*
ne
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [sw,n,e].
Two peches are here.
> w
The attempt to west didn't really work out.
> sw

[Invoker Darkfell enters FR-MUD]

Uroboros shouts: I'll buy for 1k from you too duck

Providence shouts:   Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [nw,ne].
> nw
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [w,se].
Three peches are here.
> w
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [nw,e,s].
> s
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [n,se,sw].
Two peches and Duergar Patrol Guard are here.
> se
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [nw,e].
Two Duergar Patrol guards are here.
> e
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [w,se].
Three peches are here.
> se
ne
g
You are attacked by Hook Horror.
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [nw,ne].
Hook Horror is here.
> You crush Hook Horror with your Bone Hammer for 9 HPs damage.
Hook Horror missed you.
You crush Hook Horror with your Bone Hammer for 10 HPs damage.
The Shield of Grimbrand lashes out at Hook Horror inflicting 18 HPs damage.
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [sw,n].
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [sw,n].
> You are hunting Hook Horror
g
Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [sw,n].
> n
> Underdark:  Upper Spider Tunnels [s,d].
Two Drow Guards and Drow Priestess are here.
> d
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [nw,sw,u].
> sw
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [nw,ne].
> nw
You are attacked by Umber Hulk.
You are attacked by Umber Hulk.
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [w,se].
Two umber hulks are here.
Cloud of confusion.
> Umber Hulk missed you.
Umber Hulk missed you.
Umber Hulk missed you.
w
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [nw,e].
Three peches are here.
> nw
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [n,se,sw].
> sw
> nw
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [nw,ne].
Two Drow patrol guards are here.
> You are hunting Umber Hulk
You are hunting Umber Hulk

[Sarzec (Newbie) left the MUD]
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [n,sw,se].
> sw
You are attacked by Umber Hulk.
You are attacked by Umber Hulk.
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [ne,w].
Two umber hulks are here.
Cloud of confusion.
> w
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [e,nw].
Three Duergar Patrol guards are here.
> The Shield of Grimbrand incinerates Umber Hulk with unholy power doing 18 HPs
damage.
You are hunting Umber Hulk
You are hunting Umber Hulk

Duergar Patrol Guard takes out his battle hammer and start rubbing off some
blood.
nw
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [se,sw].
> sw
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [ne,nw,d].
Gont'hur is here.
> d
> Mine Shaft [u].
> u
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [ne,nw,d].
Gont'hur is here.
> nw
> Underdark:  Lower Spider Tunnels [d,ne,se,w].
> d
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,u].
> n
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
> n
> > Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
> n
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
Yourgin the mad duergar is here.  n
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
> n
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
> n
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [s,e,w].
> w
You are attacked by Ogre.
> Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Two ogres are here.
> You crush Ogre with your Bone Hammer for 7 HPs damage.
nw
> Underdark:  Smelly Cave [s,se,sw].
Two ogre children and Ogre are here.
> sw
> Underdark:  Back of Smelly Cave [e,se,ne].
Ogre Magi is here.
> You are hunting Ogre
e
> Underdark:  Center of Smelly Cave [e,s,n,w].
Stone Giant and Two ogres are here.
> s
> Underdark:  Smelly Cave [nw,n,ne].
Two ogre children and Two ogres are here.
> ne
Ogre hits you harmlessly with her Wooden Club.
Ogre missed you.
Ogre missed you.
> Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Two ogres are here.
> e
Ogre hits you harmlessly with her Wooden Club.
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [s,e,w].
> 
Vengence Hellfur arrives from the south.

Vengence Hellfur leaves east.

t larz where are you?
You ask Larz: where are you?   sf
Stopping fights, takes some time.  bow vengence
You curtsey to Vengence.  g
Underdark:  Lower Maze [s,e,w].
> 
Larz tells you: im here  
Vengence licks you.
g
Underdark:  Lower Maze [s,e,w].
> w
Ogre misses you with her Wooden Club.
> Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Two ogres are here.
> Ogre misses you with her Wooden Club.
g
Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Two ogres are here.
> You crush Ogre with your Bone Hammer for 6 HPs damage.
The Shield of Grimbrand incinerates Ogre with unholy power doing 19 HPs damage.
Ogre hits you harmlessly with her Wooden Club.
You crush Ogre with your Bone Hammer for 7 HPs damage.
bb
You begin to cast blade barrier.
> 
Vengence tells you:  need help with anything  
You crush Ogre with your Bone Hammer for 10 HPs damage.
You chant, 'Deus Clavius'.

The ground rips open and a wall of blades springs up!
Ogre hits you harmlessly with her Wooden Club.
Ogre missed you.
Ogre missed you.

Ogre is cut by the blade barrier!
You crush Ogre with your Bone Hammer for 13 HPs damage.
The Shield of Grimbrand slams into Ogre for 17 HPs damage.

Ogre is cut by the blade barrier!
Ogre hits you harmlessly with her Wooden Club.
Ogre missed you.
Ogre missed you.

Ogre is cut by the blade barrier!
You crush Ogre with your Bone Hammer for 8 HPs damage.

Ogre is cut by the blade barrier!

Ogre is cut by the blade barrier!

Blade barrier dealt the death blow to Ogre.

Ogre dies, and her weapons eerily fall from her limp hands and drop to the
floor.

Ogre is cut by the blade barrier!
t vengence i wa shere just to cure posison to larz :) thz anyway
You tell Vengence: i wa shere just to cure posison to larz :) thz anyway  g                                                                          SEE IS A TRAP
Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Ogre is here.
Corpse of Ogre.
Wooden Club.
Blade barrier.
> k ogre
Ok.  Fight with ogre starts.
> g
The Shield of Grimbrand incinerates Ogre with unholy power doing 21 HPs damage.
Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Ogre is here.
Corpse of Ogre.
Wooden Club.
Blade barrier.
> You crush Ogre with your Bone Hammer for 6 HPs damage.
Ogre hits you harmlessly with her Wooden Club.
You stop hunting Drider.
You stop hunting Umber Hulk.
You stop hunting Ghoul.
You stop hunting Ghoul.
You stop hunting Ghoul.
You stop hunting Hell Hound.
You stop hunting Hell Hound.
You stop hunting Hell Hound.
You stop hunting Hook Horror.
You stop hunting Hook Horror.
You stop hunting Umber Hulk.
You stop hunting Umber Hulk.
You stop hunting Umber Hulk.
You stop hunting Umber Hulk.
Stopped fighting an Ogre, a Drider, five umber hulks, three ghouls, three
Hounds and two hook horrors.
g
You are attacked by Ogre.
Ogre hits you harmlessly with her Wooden Club.
Ogre missed you.
Ogre missed you.
Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Ogre is here.
Corpse of Ogre.
Wooden Club.
Blade barrier.
> The Shield of Grimbrand incinerates Ogre with unholy power doing 19 HPs damage.

Ogre is cut by the blade barrier!
l corpses
This is the dead body of Ogre.
corpse of Ogre contains:
Animal Hide.
> You crush Ogre with your Bone Hammer for 13 HPs damage.
Ogre hits you harmlessly with her Wooden Club.
Your attack glances off of Duressa's stone-like skin.
Duressa's attack glances off your stoneskin.
You get cut by the blade barrier!
Your skin reverts to normal as the stoneskin wears off.
HP: 357 GP: 331
The Shield of Grimbrand unleashes a wave of destruction crushing Ogre for 18
HPs damage.

Ogre is cut by the blade barrier!
You crush Ogre with your Bone Hammer for 13 HPs damage.
Ogre misses you with her Wooden Club.

Ogre is cut by the blade barrier!

Blade barrier dealt the death blow to Ogre.

Ogre dies, and her weapons eerily fall from her limp hands and drop to the
floor.

Vengence tells you:  ok
l corpses
This is the dead body of Ogre.
corpse of Ogre contains:
Animal Hide.
This is the dead body of Ogre.
corpse of Ogre contains:
Animal Hide.
> g
Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Two Corpses of ogres.
Two Wooden Clubs.
Blade barrier.
> 8
You bury two corpses of Ogre.
> g
Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Two Wooden Clubs.
Blade barrier.
> w
> Underdark:  Center of Smelly Cave [e,s,n,w].
Stone Giant and Two ogres are here.
> w
> Underdark:  Back of Smelly Cave [e,se,ne].
Ogre Magi is here.
> e
You are attacked by Stone Giant.
> Underdark:  Center of Smelly Cave [e,s,n,w].
Stone Giant and Two ogres are here.
> The Shield of Grimbrand slams into Stone Giant for 18 HPs damage.

Vengence tells you:  I'm lookin for fink, if you see, yell
You crush Stone Giant with your Bone Hammer for 9 HPs damage.
Stone Giant misses you with his Stone Club.

Larz asks you: comming?  g
Underdark:  Center of Smelly Cave [e,s,n,w].
Stone Giant and Two ogres are here.
> You crush Stone Giant with your Bone Hammer for 8 HPs damage.
The Shield of Grimbrand unleashes a wave of destruction crushing Stone Giant
for 20 HPs damage.
Stone Giant hits you harmlessly with his Stone Club.
You crush Stone Giant with your Bone Hammer for 7 HPs damage.
The Shield of Grimbrand unleashes a wave of destruction crushing Stone Giant
for 18 HPs damage.
Stone Giant hits you harmlessly with his Stone Club.
You crush Stone Giant with your Bone Hammer for 8 HPs damage.
Stone Giant hits you harmlessly with his Stone Club.
g
The Shield of Grimbrand hammers Stone Giant with a bolt of divine power for 18
HPs damage.
Underdark:  Center of Smelly Cave [e,s,n,w].
Stone Giant and Two ogres are here.
> sc
Hp: 358(358)  Gp: 333(355)  Xp: 1193060  Socp: 1000
Saving...
> You crush Stone Giant with your Bone Hammer for 6 HPs damage.
Stone Giant hits you harmlessly with his Stone Club.
The Shield of Grimbrand hammers Stone Giant with a bolt of divine power for 20
HPs damage.

Larz tells you: where? im at yourgin  g
Underdark:  Center of Smelly Cave [e,s,n,w].
Two ogres are here.
Corpse of Stone Giant.
Stone Club.
> 
Xevious begins to cast a spell.  Underdark:  Smelly Cave [e,sw,nw,w].
Two Wooden Clubs.
> e
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [s,e,w].
> Xevious touches you with a shadowy hand, and you feel your strength drained
away!
You hit Xevious harmlessly with your Bone Hammer.
The Shield of Grimbrand lashes out at Xevious inflicting 15 HPs damage.
You see through Xevious's clones, and begin to ignore 
all but the real thing.

Xevious's images are all gone!

Xevious throws one cold orb at you!
HP: 265 GP: 327
s
s
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
> s
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
> s
> > s
s
> Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
Larz and Yourgin the mad duergar are here.
> > Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
Vengence Hellfur is here.
> s
> > > t vengance hcure mee ocme with shadow form?
> 
Vengence blocks Xevious from leaving!
Xevious touches you with a shadowy hand, and you feel your strength drained
away!
You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
] You miss Xevious with your Bone Hammer.

Xevious throws one cold orb at you!
HP: 237 GP: 327

Xevious tries to accomplish something but fails.
s
Vengance is not logged in.
> You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> The Shield of Grimbrand lashes out at Xevious inflicting 15 HPs damage.
Xevious's earth elemental shield smashes you.

Vengence appears to be guarding the south exit.
HP: 226 GP: 327
g

Vengence rages against his opponents.
Xevious touches you with a shadowy hand, and you feel your strength drained
away!
You hit Xevious harmlessly with your Bone Hammer.

Xevious throws one cold orb at you!
HP: 203 GP: 328
Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
Vengence Hellfur is here.
> Drifter twirls and slices into you with a flurry of lightning quick attacks!
Drifter slashes you with her Doomsinger for 18 HPs damage.
Drifter slashes you with her Talin Axe for 12 HPs damage.
Drifter slashes you with her Doomsinger for 21 HPs damage.
Drifter slashes you with her Talin Axe for 26 HPs damage.
Drifter slashes you with her Doomsinger for 21 HPs damage.
Drifter slashes you with her Talin Axe for 15 HPs damage.
You are attacked by Drifter.

You notice Drifter nearby.
Drifter follows you.
s
s
You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> s
You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
] s

Vengence Hellfur asks: whats up?
s
] s
You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> Drifter slashes you with her Doomsinger for 17 HPs damage.
Drifter slashes you with her Talin Axe for 12 HPs damage.
Xevious's earth elemental shield smashes you.
HP: 49 GP: 328
You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
] s
] s
] ] s
s
] s
] ] 
Vengence rages against his opponents.
Xevious touches you with a shadowy hand, and you feel your strength drained
away!
You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
] You hit Xevious harmlessly with your Bone Hammer.
The Shield of Grimbrand incinerates Drifter with unholy power doing 19 HPs
damage.

Xevious throws one cold orb at you!
HP: 22 GP: 328

Larz winks at you.

Drifter concentrates with a steady hand...
s
You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
> You cannot get passed Vengence!
The attempt to south didn't really work out.
] 
Xevious begins to cast a spell.
cur me
You cannot get passed Vengence!  Drifter's humming sword bites deeply into you!  You feel a chilling cold wretch
at you soul draining some of your life force and making Drifter look healthier!

Drifter slashes you with her Doomsinger for 30 HPs damage.
Drifter hits you harmlessly with her Talin Axe.
Xevious's earth elemental shield smashes you.
You lower your Bone Hammer.
You lower your Dark Shield of Grimbrand.
You start to take off Helm of Storms.
You take off your Helm of Storms.
You start to take off shadow ring.
You take off your shadow ring.
You start to take off Silk trousers.
You take off your Silk trousers.
You start to take off Holy Pendant.
You unclasp the pendant, and somehow feel more vulnerable.
You take off your Holy Pendant.
You start to take off Golden fur.
You take off your Golden fur.
You start to take off Reinforced Dwarf Skin Boots.
You take off your Reinforced Dwarf Skin Boots.
You start to take off Silk shirt.
You take off your Silk shirt.
You start to take off bronze medallion.
You take off your bronze medallion.
You start to take off silver bracers.
You take off your silver bracers.
You start to take off Collar.
Carefully to not scrap yourself against one of the sharp nails you take down
your collar.
You take off your Collar.
You start to take off Dark Amulet.
You take off your Dark Amulet.
You start to take off Ring of Faith.
You take off your Ring of Faith.
You start to take off Korlinium Armour.
You take off your Korlinium Armour.
You start to take off Mithril Belt.
The ancient powers surrounding you fade, leaving you exposed and vulnerable.
You take off your Mithril Belt.
You have been slain, and your weapons fall from your limp hands..
HP: 0 GP: 0
The attempt to cur me didn't really work out.
> g

Xevious chants, 'frezzus es coe'.
Xevious makes a gesture toward you and a nimbus of cold blasts over you 
in a freezing cone.

Vengence appears to be guarding the south exit.
Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
Drifter and Vengence Hellfur are here.
Corpse of Duressa.
Dark Shield of Grimbrand.
Bone Hammer.
> A razor sharp chill runs up your spine.

Vengence Hellfur asks: wtf? 

Vengence rages against his opponents.
A dark voice booms in your mind, cackling with laughter.

Vengence rages against his opponents.

Vengence appears to be guarding the south exit.
The voice says: Let me introduce myself, I'm Grimbrand, Demi-God of Darkness.

Drifter shouts: death

Xevious begins to cast a spell.

Xevious chants, "Illios effacious."
Grimbrand tells you: It looks like you were quite foolish today.

Vengence rages against his opponents.
Grimbrand cackles with glee upon looking at your bloody corpse.

Drifter takes a nasty razor sharp blade and savagely peels the hair from the
corpse of Duressa.

Larz arrives from the north.

Vengence blocks Larz from leaving!

Vengence rages against his opponents.

Vengence appears to be guarding the south exit.
Grimbrand says: I can strike your soul to hell if I so choose.

Vengence Hellfur leaves south.


[Huck left the MUD]
> Grimbrand grins wickedly.
g
Underdark:  Lower Maze [n,s].
Larz is here.
A scalp of hair.
Corpse of Duressa.
Dark Shield of Grimbrand.
Bone Hammer.
> 
Larz ack's.